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  1. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    That probably won't accomplish anything I'm comfortable with. I just don't like feeling like a complete stranger.
     
  2. MurphyAlter

    MurphyAlter The Floofiest

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    Water is the tits :U
     
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  3. doit666

    doit666 Forever confused

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    My day off today has been..... Pretty boring. :/ Most of the stores I was gonna go to were closed. Made for a very short morning outing.
     
  4. Velixer

    Velixer The Musical Draconic Muse

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    I hear you there man, my day off has been relatively lack-luster
     
  5. doit666

    doit666 Forever confused

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    Better than being at work. This whole month has been awful
     
  6. Poster Nutbag

    Poster Nutbag Prefers the company of snakes over bees

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    Mmm... Having some sushi with my sister. Today's shaping up to be a rather nice one for me :)
     
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  7. scalie

    scalie back pokin' snake

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    I've never understood the rationality behind people starting bar fights and rioting in the streets, burning cars and looting even when their own team wins. then again I've never been into sitting on my ass for 5 hours to watch something I found more boring than watching paint dry
     
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  8. Velixer

    Velixer The Musical Draconic Muse

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    Couldn't agree more man, I'm not looking forward to going back to work.
     
  9. AkaiKitsune

    AkaiKitsune Boop

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    I can't seem to be able to read or listen to anything without getting pissed off, wow. If you sit and read all of this, I apologise massively in advance.

    So I've been listening to some car podcasts by a group of people known among car enthusiasts for having loads of expensive and exotic cars. From what I've heard of the first few episodes, it seems like most of it is about these guys talking about all the posh places they go to, cool people they hang out with, and whining about poor people being jealous of/mean towards them.

    I thought I'd listen to the next one while cooking dinner, of which the main topic of conversation is that some 21 year old guy recently managed to buy a Lamborghini Gallardo. They're all applauding his effort, yadda yadda, etc... then the topic of conversation turns to how he could afford it. It went something like:

    TL; DR: "How can I afford an exotic car?" "Work for it. Work hard. Work harder. Work until it threatens your health. Work past it threatening your health. If you don't, you're a lazy asshole who doesn't want to work for what you get. Also don't buy anything else in your life."

    Guy 1: "So just how does someone so young get to afford an exotic car like that?"
    Guy 2: "They work for it."
    G1: "What, like-"
    G2: "I worked my ass off, I come from a very modest background and I built up one of the largest repossession companies in the north east at the time and I sold it back in 2007, so I was basically retired.
    G1: "Okay, well how do you - for the guy right now saying "I graduated college, I can't get a job that pays anything over minimum" like, that's not even in the cart to go out and buy a car like that. An exotic car's gonna cost you about a minimum of 75 grand. How are you gonna go out and do that?"
    G2: "Work! Work, work, work! To the guy who's sitting on his ass asking "how am I ever gonna afford it", there's a reason he's not gonna afford it, because he's sitting on his ass scratching his balls."
    G1: "But he goes to work 60 hours a week -"
    G2: "Well look for another job. Do something else. I used to work 22 hours a day, legitimately, 22 hours a day, 6 days a week. I slept 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the evening. My mother used to throw cold water on me at night to get me up so I could work. I did it myself, I just worked my ass off and I didn't stop until I sold the business."
    G1: "Well it's one thing to be 21 years old and go out and commit to a $100K purchase and have no additional expenditures, right? If I'm living at home, I'm not paying of college, I'm not paying off grad school - "
    G2: "Well do you need college?"
    G1: "No, what I'm saying is that if you don't have anything else to pay off, a $100K purchase is not that unattainable for most people. But you have to be willing to give up your whole other lifestyle. You have other people like Seth here who gets expensive cars all the time and still lives comfortably. You're not sacrificing other aspects of your life, that's the difference here."
    G2: "I'm also a little different here. I mean, not everybody's built the same way, right? I'm the type of person - if I wanted to, I could go buy a Veyron tomorrow. I'll take out a payment of $25K a month. You know what? I'll figure out a way to pay that. And I'll work or I'll change something in my life to be able to afford it."
    G1: "I think the point here though is that you're not going to have to give up the happiness in your life, right? I always tell people that you have to save where you can so you can spend where you want. A lot of people do the "fake it 'til you make it thing" and they walk around in an $800 suit. You don't need an $800 suit."
    G2: "I always say the money doesn't make the man, the man makes the money."
    G1: "Correct, but it's one of those things. You have to find out what actually brings you enjoyment. If cars bring you enjoyment, then stop spending money on all the other stupid shit in your life, stop getting the $800 belts, stop going out to clubs. Like, all that shit that people feel like they have to do in order to fill in everything else that comes with owning an exotic car. If owning a car is what you value and what you enjoy, then stop wasting money on all the other useless shit."

    What kind of classist, privileged bullshit is this? You know the reason working limits were imposed? Because people were literally dying from working too hard and too much. Which is exactly what this guy is saying you have to do if you want to succeed, whilst also implying that if you can't get a job or can't get a job that pays well, you're simply not trying hard enough.

    What about those of us, like me, whose family have come from absolute rock bottom and worked their lives away for ungrateful and vindictive pricks and have ended up not far from that rock bottom? What about people like myself, who have so many more social, physical and mental obstacles to overcome in social life, education and work life than your average person? What about people like me who end up having to shell out more than your average person for things necessary to keep them stable and alive? I can't find a well paying job, simply because nobody will hire me.

    My areas of training are well paying, but extremely limited, which I didn't know at the time of choosing it. I've been to pretty much every work agency in the city, and I'm signed up with 3 of them. They haven't called me to a single hour for any of them, despite constantly checking that I'm still signed on. I've worked the past 7 years of my ass off just to get the requirements for jobs substantially above minimum, and I've had absolutely fuck all in return. In fact, I'm massively out of pocket for things I didn't really want to do. I'm living on practically nothing and I'm struggling to simply survive and keep the will to live, not "spending on useless shit".

    A few weeks ago, I was super happy with myself being so financially savvy that I managed to save £1 of my weekly expenditure to buy a couple of cloves of garlic. The perspective being that I am in such a state that being able to afford garlic was the highlight of my week.

    And then there's people like these assholes, who are the prime demographic for employability and ease of acceptance, saying "well we did it, so if you can't that's because you're lazy or financially incompetent."
    God, I fucking love capitalism and society.
     
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  10. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    My ex has spent the whole day with his boyfriend. They've been sitting downstairs watching TV and eating. They just went out to a hardware store and Mcdonalds for errands. I've been waiting all day to go out and buy totes so I can pack my stuff and I've just been completely ignored. I would have thought, that just maybe, he'd consider spending a tiny amount of time with me before he never sees me again.

    I can't believe I ever loved him.
     
  11. Misskin

    Misskin http://www.furaffinity.net/user/misskin/

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    That was a shitty thing to do. I don't know what caused ya'lls break up, but I do know you and he shouldn't have treated you that way just because you're separating.
     
  12. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    He's not ignoring me out of malice, he's neglecting me and avoiding me.
     
  13. SnowLycan

    SnowLycan ☆*:.。.Mahou shoujo.。.:*☆

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    Sounds to me like he's a douche.
     
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  14. Jazzi the Pegasus

    Jazzi the Pegasus Something Original

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    Tired right now plus it started raining so people are gunnar come inside now....
     
  15. scalie

    scalie back pokin' snake

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    finally rained so it will get some of the humidity out of the air and cool things off. still hot as fuck inside though. sweating even with 3 fans going. I don't want to run the new air conditioner with the humidty since it'll fill up the water reservoir and it's a bitch to try to empty without soaking the carpet
     
  16. Velixer

    Velixer The Musical Draconic Muse

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    The weather today has been quite weird, it started out somewhat cold in comparison to the past couple of days, then it suddenly heated up to the typical hot weather...ugh weather can't make up it's mind >.<
     
  17. Sheep

    Sheep Pluviophile

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    My ex is in my house...for my family, not for me. Still awkward.

    I kind of want to catch up with him a little bit? I dunno.
     
  18. Misskin

    Misskin http://www.furaffinity.net/user/misskin/

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    Exes shouldn't hang around after a break up. I mean, they're all adults and all, but what would happen if you got together with someone and then broke up with them. The two exes just show up and hangout together at your house? then the next ex and next ex? (btw I'm not calling you serial dater lol, just illustrating the reason why exes should fully "EXit" ppls family lives)
     
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  19. Sheep

    Sheep Pluviophile

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    I agree though.
    In this case my ex is...there isn't really a good way to put it...he provides Things. Also really can get along with my dad since they're pretty close in age. So he's here and he's outside visiting with my dad. Think he brought over some of his brother's grasses to plant in front of our new fence, block out the neighbor's ugly fucking yard.
    I'm not too keen on the ex being a family friend but there's not much I can do about it, aside from hide for a bit.

    And keep ex from interacting with partner since there's bad blood there, but that's another story.
     
  20. doit666

    doit666 Forever confused

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    Same... Despite the extra days off I have this week, it's going to be terribly busy every day I'm there. Maybe next week will be better since this promotion we're running at work is ending.
     

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