What Is On Your Mind?

having a vent online about some of the stupid shit I see does not equal how I act in public. when I engage in any kind of social change I try to go into it with more of a focus on "what can we accomplish in reasonable steps" rather than "CRUSH THE SYSTEM MAN!" if people want to get any kind of long term balanced changes they need to focus on an issue and build an argument that is reasonable and likely to make any kind of traction towards their goal. implementing immediate reactionary policies without consideration for everyone it effects only leads to escalation and increased tension. I'll always use occupy wallstreet as a perfect example, starting with a message of fighting corporate and economic corruption had some promise and if they had stuck to that it may have gone somewhere. when it turned into a massive horde with no common message and 'councils' that 'temperature checked' speakers ideas with finger wiggling it lost all chance of accomplishing anything.

I also fail to see how relating my experiences is detracting from anything, I didn't say she's over reacting or telling her she's wrong. if trying to relate to something from your own experiences to is a problem then how is anyone supposed to get along or work together?

 

I think what Exe meant is that you can't give your perspective on an issue you're not a part of. Kinda like you can't tell people how hard life is in a wheelchair if you yourself are not in one. You can imagine the difficulty , you can have a friend with that difficulty, but you don't have the actual experience. I might be wrong though, because I'm not an analyst of aaaaaaany kind

 

IKR, especially when they always argue "oh, well those things are on a spectrum" well I'm on that spectrum "well I don't think you are..." XD I just can't get behind a group that does the exact thing they say to be against

 

I'm just saying, going with the "I experience prejudice too," and "It's not my fault their arguments aren't well constructed - here let me explain why." approach isn't exactly helping, and that's all I've seen here as one biased observer. If you're doing anything constructive towards affecting positive change, kudos, all I've seen here is a long tradition of complaining about SJWs as though the least mature people in the discussion are the be-all end-all of social discourse. I'd just like to see anything positive come out of all the energy you put into this, but all you share here are the negatives, so you'll have to forgive me if it just looks to me like you're more interested in complaining and lording your intelligence over these people than you are in actually forwarding anything progressive or helping them make BETTER arguments.

 

I understand that perspective, but I don't see how anyone can have an open dialogue or discussion to raise awareness and work towards change if only select people are allowed to speak and any attempt to find common ground or a way to understand the experiences of another group is seen as a problem

 

I agree with you. Groups of people can't get from under the heel of another without help from an outside group, or even better from people within the group that's oppressing them, because no one truly believes something they're doing is wrong until someone from their own camp tells them so.

 

Kuja is really goddamn pretty, so I see nothing wrong here here.

 

It's not that you can't help if you're on the outside, it's that you're not necessarily in the best position to really understand, you have to earn the respect needed to speak your mind, and people are naturally defensive about it. Generally, men aren't allowed to work in women's shelters for all kinds of legitimate reasons. To a much lesser extent, cisgendered White males arent readily trusted to be the best allies for a whole lot of social movements, for a whole lot of fair reasons. And when they spend their time making sometimes harsh constructive criticism rather than cooperating and building a reputation as an ally worth listening to, they're not going to be welcomed with open arms. Why should the disenfranchised listen to some guy who's not only living outside their experience, but dismissive of their efforts? They're not looking for somebody they view as privileged to come in and restructure the entire effort because he thinks they're not being smart about it. The last thing most people on the forefront of a social movement want is advice from another white guy who thinks SJWs are incompetent children.

 

Like for everyone? I want everyone to be Kuja... that snowy skin colour, that androginous body, that class, that bitchyness, that love for poetry and drama. I wouldn't get bored of everyone being like him XD

 

^ Hit the nail on the head, IMO.
Pretty much exactly what happens when I try to explain to people how hard being trans (and non-hetero) is to straight cis people. I just get the attitudes of "you're overreacting/need thicker skin" and/or "goddamn special snowflake SJW, stop complaining because the world doesn't revolve around you." Hell, my brother even considers "cis" a slur and says shit like "well if black/LGBTQ people want respect, they have to earn it instead of attacking everyone who offends them first". How the fuck are you supposed to reason these issues with someone like that?

And it's not just my perspective. You'll find that these reactions are very much shared experiences amongst minorities.

 

That is taking things a bit far... then he wouldn't be special

 

We have to find the common ground between all the extremes on the spectrum. At one end are the people who are bitterly offended and determined to be unhappy with the complex and challenging nature of a world full of diversity. On the other end are the hateful spiteful insular xenophobes determined to hate any perceived "other." Somewhere in the middle, is another divide. One group wants to see disenfranchised groups empowered and represented and respected, and another doesn't see why people with a fundamentally different experience of the world want so much change. Most of us are somewhere between those two subsets.

 

I think I managed to nab one. The special Fallout 4 lootcrates. Oh I hope it all goes through and its all stuff my Best friend will enjoy!

Any Fallout 4 fans nab one here.

 

Well apparently I didn't get the Family Dollar job because the other girl before me had more experience... Even though I know who she is and I know she can't keep a job for anything.

What the hell is with the world of "no job with no experience". It's a bloody retail store. < _>

 

Yeah I had that experience just the other week when looking for jobs. They sort of look at you and just assume you aren't good enough.

What the hell rude much. I changed my hair to something plain to get jobs and still nothing.

Though hang in there darling I'm sure something good will pop up eventually.

 

Meanwhile I've had my job for nearly two n a half years....;3;

 

The "no job because you have no experience" sucks indeed. Any volunteer work or side jobs you did while going to school you could write down as work experience?

 

Good on ya though Jazzi! I worked at GameStop for around 7 months but... I just couldn't take it anymore. I'm a diehard gamer and the perks of working there were REALLY nice (15% discount on all merch except brand new consoles). That and the boss would often have like... employee parties where we would get a shitton of pizza and spend all night gaming. The downside was no benefits, didn't make more than $7.25 an hour and I only worked 3 hours a week. :x On top of having to drive 20 miles to get there. I miss it, but weh.

I do feel it is rude to base hiring someone on job experience alone is kinda bunk, because during the interview she kept telling me how I seemed like a perfect fit. Plus I feel like it's kinda judging a book by it's cover. >n>' Where I live there are hardly any places around worth the volunteer work because A There are no places to really volunteer B I am about 20 miles from the biggest town (which even then has only about 16k people).

 

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