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Discussion in 'Completed Sale/Wanted Threads' started by Stallionmaster, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. GammaTheDickNiffler

    GammaTheDickNiffler Transmasc, He/Him/His pls

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    Yeah, but bought from you doesn't mean he's not scammed Ralithos, who bought an item from Stallionmaster, who so far has done nothing but deflect when he could just...I dunno, cough up a tracking number?
     
  2. GammaTheDickNiffler

    GammaTheDickNiffler Transmasc, He/Him/His pls

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    LOL! That's not proof, buddy. I hope you'll actually be a decent person and give Ralithos what he paid for. If not, at least he'll get his money back.
    Creep.
     
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  3. Zaphora

    Zaphora Moderator Staff Member

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    You're on to something :D
     
  4. yuzupo

    yuzupo New Member

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    Between this thread, the other scammer thread, the OTHER other scammer thread. . .

    ...

    I can TOTALLY see why the "Official" BD forum secondhand section is N E V E R coming back online. Well. Maybe it will, but...
    I'm adamant on selling ONLY, but now I think mine that haven't sold will just have to collect more dust in my room or otherwise be 'made to disappear.' Strange lack of trustworthiness the first week I use this place lmaoo

    And yes I already had read all of the fuckery from the official forums lol
     
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  5. dwww

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    I always chose the more expensive priority shipping since it has a tracking number. There is no way I would ever sell anything to anyone online over Paypal without having a working certified tracking number. One time it happened that the neighbour actually stole one of my packages and because of the tracking number we made a report and the police took care of it and we got a refund from the post office! Sometimes packages really get lost... it's just bad luck. I've sold over 100 toys and bought too over this and the BD forum. If there was an issue I always managed to resolve it! So remember everyone... if you sell or buy... always have a working tracking number, no matter if that costs a little more!
     
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  6. Sleepy

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    My thoughts exactly. Damn shame tho, since there are plenty of people on the BD forums and in the "community" that buy/trade/sell among themselves.
     
  7. Stallionmaster

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    Ok so he has received what he paid for and also wants his money back from PayPal.... it’s a shame that he is throwing a temper tantrum like a 5 year old because PayPal is still investigating it. He does not like that so resolves to trying to make me look like a bad person. Is it just me that it seems a little odd that he is doing all this when it’s still being investigated.....? I can here to buy and sell and I have done that but it seems like it’s a waste of money because of people like him and the ones that have stolen from countless others on here. I’m not deflecting anything and provided all the information to PayPal required.
     
  8. Villie

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    You gave 0 proof you ever shipped anytbing. According to the PM screenshots, you never stated you ever got time to ship out the toy. So not even a "I shipped it!"

    You never gave a tracking number, either. This isn't looking good in your favoe. Instead of getting mad about being accused, show actual proof you shipped this thing out.

    If the screenshots are false, then speak up and show your own PM screenshots. IF those pm screenshots are true, then you had very poor communication and need to work on it. You stopped replying to the other giy, who was rightfully worried if he still never got shipping confirmation after all that time then suddenly was getting ignored.

    If you really are not a scammer, own up to your mistakes on the shipping and don't act so haughty as if How Dare I Be Accused

    You never let them know it shipped! You never let them know the tracking! When they stated they never received the package, you never replied! (Unless those screenshots are fake, but you never commented on them)


    Sometimes you mail something out and it gets lost in the mail. IF someone contacts you about a missing item, assume they're being honest and try and look into it or call the post office or give them the damn tracking number so they can contact the post office themselves. Without the tracking number, they can't do Anything.
     
  9. GammaTheDickNiffler

    GammaTheDickNiffler Transmasc, He/Him/His pls

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    This is why I always send a photo of my receipt with the tracking number(s) EVERY time I send a package off. Even if I'm headed to work afterwards, it takes literally a minute or two to take a pic and send it with a message to the buyer. There's just no real excuse when you've got the receipt RIGHT there.
     
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  10. stuck-on-the-knot1

    stuck-on-the-knot1 Ember

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    This is why every time I ship something, as soon as I have the reciept in hand, the first thing I do when I get home is add the tracking number so
    1. I don't forget
    2. I don't lose the receipt
    3. Its better for whoever is buying it to get there stuff right away and you can track it yourself and make sure it gets to them

    I always try to message someone when buying a toy when I get it in hand to let them know I got it and check it with a buyer to make sure they got it as well!
     
  11. Ralithos

    Ralithos Active Member

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    Called paypal and seller States that I requested no tracking number. Which is clearly a lie from the chat log.
     
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  12. 2002tiiguy

    2002tiiguy Active Member

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    The few things ive shipped, i just take a picture of the receipt and send it in an email
     
  13. Feverdream

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    Who would request "no tracking number please"? It defies logic. No receipt makes his story unbelievable. It's like walking out of a store with a fancy item, and when security stops you, saying that you bought it, but you didn't get a receipt. You ALWAYS get a receipt.

    So we're supposed to believe that Stallionmaster deliberately didn't get a tracking number, and didn't bother to save his receipt? If that turns out to be an honest mistake, but costly, maybe it's a good lesson for him to learn.

    The point of tracking is to protect the seller (proof of shipment) and protect the buyer (track a missing package). Anybody who ships an expensive item to a total stranger with no proof of shipment (receipt or tracking) is making a foolish mistake. Even if Stallionmaster is honest but just dumb, and this mistake costs him, I think it's a fair and correct outcome. Stallionmaster is clearly in the wrong. Maybe he did ship the toy, and it got lost in the system... because Stallionmaster has no tracking number, the toy might never be recovered. That's not the buyer's fault, and it's not "shared" fault. It's Stallionmaster's fault.

    Also, the reason the BD Buy/Sell forum didn't work against bad transactions, is because users were forbidden from discussing problems. You weren't allowed to say someone was cheating. What we're doing here (discussing it, asking for proof, trying to hold people accountable, warning potential buyers) is working. This is exactly how it's supposed to work. This bad sale will be settled somehow, unlike at BD where bad sellers are protected by silence, and allowed to take advantage of additional new people while the cheated buyers are kept quiet. Even their policy of not allowing discussion on a sale thread is dumb and wrong. On every other forum I visit with buy/sale threads, users are able to police themselves. Bad Dragon's policies on the Buy/Sell forum are bad and wrong.
     
  14. SnowPony

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    PayPal wouldn't have to investigate anything if you showed them the tracking number/shipping receipt. All they'd have to do is plug in the number, see it's been delievered, if it has been, and they close the dispute and you win.
     
  15. GammaTheDickNiffler

    GammaTheDickNiffler Transmasc, He/Him/His pls

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    I'll be very curious to see how this shakes out.
     
  16. Sleepy

    Sleepy Boop~

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    Yup! Just did it for me!
    I appreciate it~

    i do all of my shipping online, and have it picked up from the house during regular mail hours. It's free, I don't have to leave the house, and everything is digital so you can't even lose it.
     

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