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Discussion in 'General Toy Discussions and pictures' started by Shiku, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. Shiku

    Shiku New Member

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    This picture is on an XL Flint's balls. And I was wondering if any of you have an opinion about it. I had it boiled and scrubbed several times to no avail. I'd like to try and get this off. Otherwise. It's mostly just on the base and not on the actual part that goes in you.

    I may be tempted to sell with a damage based price reduction, but I may not altogether. It doesn't seem that bad to me personally, but I would still like to hear some opinions.

    What do you guys think?
     

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  2. Feverdream

    Feverdream Well-Known Member

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    How long did you boil it for? I've boiled several toys for over 45 minutes with no negative effects, when there were odors that I wanted to get rid of (it worked -- and shorter boils did not work). I have a giant stock pot (for toys only - I got a cheap one on Ebay) so there's no chance the water will boil off completely. I also keep the lid on, which I think raises the temperature in the pot (maybe not) but at least means that I don't have to run the stove burner so high.

    Did you try soaking in diluted bleach solution? (but I think that's mainly for protecting against hepatitis - still, worth trying).

    You could also try microwaving the toy, then long boiling.

    It wouldn't hurt to contact customer service, to see if they have experience.

    It's hard to tell how bad it is, because it's so close up, you can't see how large the area is compared to the size of the toy (I wouldn't be able to give you a better answer, but other people might be able to offer opinions on whether it's sellable).
     
  3. rhattus

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    If you're honest about it and give a fair price for the damage, there's always someone who will buy it. But even knowing that the spots are on the base and not the shaft, I think it's going to be difficult to find that "someone" unless you discount it heavily. Harmless or not, mold tends to squick people.

    I would soak it in a bleach solution for an entire day and/or boil it for an hour (putting a towel on the bottom of the pot greatly reduces the risk of damage from the burner), and evaluate it again. I don't suggest microwaving it- silicone that's thick like a toy is can behave unpredictably in microwaves. Possibly hydrogen peroxide might have an effect, if you can get the spotted area submerged in it.
     
  4. Bacchus

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    Any update on the shower rot? Curious.
     
  5. Shiku

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    An update. Life took over for a bit there.

    So these pictures are after boiling the toy on a stove top for two hours. I tried rubbing the spots and boiling it with bleach spray (Clorox Cleaner + Bleach). 20200302_192321_copy.jpg In relation to the spots on the toy, I took a picture that shows the main area on the toy (mostly the base on the balls and nowhere else, including the part that goes inside of you). 20200302_200454.jpg
    I may keep trying again and work on selling something else.

    Unfortunately the toy is too large to fit inside of a microwave reasonably, and the pot that I got can't submerge the entire thing, it rested on a metal bracket on the bottom to keep the toy from resting on the bottom. But the boil was focused on where the damage is located.

    This is some stubborn stuff. Maybe some CLR this time? Who knows. It doesn't seem to be getting better (or worse) it just doesn't look good. I like all of the replies around this. I might continue the thread again when if I see progress or try other viable methods. I wanna see if I can nuke the dots out of this silicone.
    Current Pictures:
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  6. Shiku

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    Update.

    So instead of, lugging around this 8lb monster for everything and potentially ruining it with chemicals, I switched to teeny weenies. I'm using one to test things, and if it gets destroyed in the process of using chemicals, no losses.

    It's got the squicky marks like the big boy. So this makes for a comparable way of testing things on silicone.
    So first order of busness, I bought some bleach, some isopropyl rubbing alcohol, and hydrogen peroxide.
    -Soaked it in a water bleach solution, no results
    -Soaked it in rubbing alcohol, no results
    -Soaked it in hydrogen peroxide, formed tiny bubbles
    -Boiled it for a couple of hours, no results
    -Moved it back to hydrogen peroxide, no bubbles formed
    -let it sit for five days, over the first few days, no bubbles visible, over the last couple, some minor bubbles formed. Learned I can use hydrogen peroxide to judge if germs are on the toy. Assuming it's the same reaction that occurs when put on cuts.
    -boiled it again for one hour, moved it back to hydrogen peroxide to test again

    Final results:
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    These were all of the 'safe' things I was informed I could use, and after lots of testing. This has to literally be the cleanest I can physically make it short of creating a literal acid solution to start melting it and making it non-body safe. The marks on them have changed sort of, from a black to a brownish color, presumably as a result of the (5+ hours of) boiling, but they definitely more comparable to clothing stains than an active mold. Looks terrible, doesn't spread (or spreads extremely slowly). I think this is about as bad as silicone caulk in a bathroom. You may see it on older silicone after years of showering/bathing, but if it does spread it takes forever in favorable conditions for mold growth, and it has an extremely tough time spreading in specifically silicone. A generally good testament to how strong silicone is in general.

    Edit: Now maybe, I can get some CLR and post one last time and see what happens just for the memes. I'll take suggestions on ways to kill this silicone sample. I have three of them and I do not care what happens to them.
     
  7. Feverdream

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    It's possible that you've killed the mold but the toy will always be discolored. You may be at this stage now.

    Have you tried a long soak in pure bleach? Think about what might affect the color.

    You might try storing the Flint near an unaffected toy in an enclosed area (bag?) to see if the damage spreads to the other toy.
     
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  8. Shiku

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    Alright. Two more tests to see what happens. I will check in later with results since they kind of require a decent wait time to see if anything happens.

    First test: Soaking the moldy samples in a pure bleach solution. Obviously, you're supposed to mix bleach with water, so this should be more potent. I have a second mini in the bleach to see if color bleeds out of it as well.
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    Second Test: We'll see if this mold can spread and grow by contact. So what I did is I took this third sample
    20200313_165658(1).jpg and put it on the big green here with cling wrap held tightly. If anything should show up on big green, we should see similar splotches, and as a doubled measure. The little green has not been sterilized.
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    Seeya in a week plus, or month plus to see what happens.
     
  9. Bacchus

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    Looking forward to your future updates!
     
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  10. Leopardfurred

    Leopardfurred Wild and Untamed Thing

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    The towel at the bottom of the pot is brilliant...
     
  11. RK200

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    Dude no!!! That poor Cole needs a hole xD how did it go btw if you are the one with that bitching flint white/brown metallic that color is fucking dope
     
  12. bellyRider

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    Wait, how did this happen? Did you leave your flint in the shower for a long time or something?
     
  13. Xochiquetzal

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    I am curious about how did that happened too.
    And what happened with the green toy?
    Did the marks on Flint finally disappeared?
    Best luck with this issue, hope you can find a way to get rid of the problem :).
     
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