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  1. Dracoa

    Dracoa Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much. More and more people are getting sick of this SJW bullshit, and more and more are tired of hearing about it. Hate to be the one to break to you, but the world doesn't give a damn about you and your feelings. You aren't a special snowflake, and nobody cares. The world is not a Safe Space, no matter how much you want it to be. And your intolerance for those outside of your little echo chamber won't be tolerated for much longer. You've become that which you hate.
     
  2. AkaiKitsune

    AkaiKitsune Boop

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    I get what you're saying, but none of that matters in the here and now. And the here and now is that we aren't tolerated. There's a reason a trans person dies almost every day, and it isn't through any faults of their own.

    We're outnumbered by one to thousands, just in that Reddit thread alone. We don't owe people jack shit for viewing us as degenerate freaks or sexual objects, but apparently that makes us the bad guys? It's frustrating and outrageous having to justify ourselves over and over again to people whose lives you have absolutely no bearing on, but take pride in making ours as miserable as possible because they refuse to educate themselves and step above their arrogance and ignorance.

    Hell, I thought here was a place for open minded individuals, but I'm seeing now that I was mistaken.

    We don't ask for much, but 9 times out of 10, we get it spat back in our faces and then told that we should be grateful for it. "You have to respect us and everything we say, and not upset us at all before we'll even consider viewing you as an equal human being". I am not settling for that shit. It is not on us to pander to anyone or prove that we deserve basic human dignity just because we're slightly different.
     
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  3. AkaiKitsune

    AkaiKitsune Boop

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    Excuse me, what? This isn't "SJW bullshit", it's a condition and state well documented within science and medicine for decades, at least. Guess whose side they take? Hint: Not yours.

    This isn't fucking Tumblr we're talking about here. I don't consider myself a "special snowflake". You have no idea how much I and many people like me want to be "normal". Very few of us (outside of Tumblr) actually want to be made out as a big deal. We just want people to let us fucking live and not be harassed, assaulted, raped, tortured and killed just for trying to be respected as people.

    This is exactly the thing I was talking about in my previous post. We're not "intolerant of those outside our little echo chamber", we're intolerant of arrogant bigots who enjoy making our lives as miserable as possible because they view us as sub human through no fault of our own. Is that really too much to ask for?

    I am more than open to respecting people who treat us as normal people, but don't expect me to be tolerant of your own unfounded intolerance before you even consider treating us like human beings.

    If you fucking educated yourself, we wouldn't have a problem. Shitting on people with half-assed and damaging opinions formulated through nothing but rumour and ignorance is what we hate.

    Again, we don't ask for much, but 9 times out of 10, we get it spat back in our faces and then told that we should be grateful for it. "You have to respect us and everything we say, and not upset us at all before we'll even consider viewing you as an equal human being". That's not "wanting a Safe Space™ (property of Tumblr™)", it's wanting to be treated with some fucking human decency. Is that too much to ask from people like you?
     
  4. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    A movie about the BP oil spill that just presents itself oddly. This trailer is clearly for a monster movie. Oil under the oceans is primarily plant matter and marine microganisms from ancient times. Dinosaurs make up a miniscule fraction of it if any at all. Why do kids who just completely idolize their parents seem so unrealistic? How are they going to make this story about corporate greed, shady business practices, irresponsibility, and an environmental catastrophe that destroyed human lives as well as death to whole populations of ocean life, a movie about heroes?

     
  5. Velixer

    Velixer The Musical Draconic Muse

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    So I'm thinking about upgrading my phone but I don't know which one I should choose.
    The phones I'm looking at are the Galaxy S4, S5, and S6.
    I've looked at all the specs of each phone and I am just at a loss at which one is best.
    Thoughts?
     
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  6. GuyStripes

    GuyStripes An automatonic shark pirate

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    Just had one of the Lightning hockey players stop in the dealership to pick up his car. He signed one of his sticks and have it to his service advisor, and now the advisor has it hanging above his desk.

    That's one thing I like about our hockey players. They're very nice and generous to fans.
     
  7. Dracoa

    Dracoa Well-Known Member

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    If you want to be treated normal, don't make a big deal about NOT being normal. You can be as trans as you want, but it is not the norm. And let me reiterate, the world does not care, it doesn't care about you, it doesn't care about me, it doesn't care about any of us. And if you only want to be recognized as being trans, then you are a one dimensional imitation of a human being. Anyone who's focuses so strongly on one particular characteristic that they possess clearly doesn't have much else going for them, that's not something to be respected.
     
  8. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    Now come on that's just bullshit. Quite Obviously it's the people who are making it hard for LGBT people and especially trans people who are only seeing us/them as one-dimensional. Trans people just want to live their lives but they have to do it in an environment where part of their identity is in the line of fire and scrutinized in shameful, sexist, narrow, inappropriate ways. We/They didn't ask to get singled out and bullied and disrespected and dehumanized. Shitty people did that to them without any prompting.

    You want to talk about the world being indifferent, here you are being an asshole and literally blaming a large group of people for the social harrowing we've put them through. Try exercising a little compassion and maybe the world won't look like such a bleak place all the time. Life is what we make of it Dracoa.
     
  9. Jazzi the Pegasus

    Jazzi the Pegasus Something Original

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    Why did my sweatshirt go from Oak Creek to Illinois? Just go to Madison, ya weirdos!
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  10. Reptile

    Reptile Semi-Professional Butthole Spelunker

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    Man ill never know why GMC gets such a boner from playing hide and seek with spark plugs.
     
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  11. GuyStripes

    GuyStripes An automatonic shark pirate

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    We at Audi do the same thing with key fob batteries.
     
  12. Velixer

    Velixer The Musical Draconic Muse

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    I've had that happen before.
    I ordered something, it got to Charlotte, NC, then it suddenly found itself somewhere in friggin Georgia before finally ending up on my doorstep. I was like "What the serious fuck? Why did it go to Georgia?"
     
  13. AkaiKitsune

    AkaiKitsune Boop

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    Holy shit. Just, wow. Here's a kicker for you, we don't. The only time it becomes a big deal is when some asshole uses our condition as an excuse to dehumanise us at best and kill us at worst. That is literally the only reason we ever bring it up.

    Just look at what started this whole thing. I was pointing out with despair just how many people despise me and people like me just because we have a condition that effects NOBODY BUT OURSELVES. Then you came along with your unwarranted and uneducated opinion to shit all over us some more, on a subject that does not concern you in any way whatsoever. And then you started being a complete asshole when we defended ourselves, yet tried to imply that we are the aggressors and act as though we demand unreasonably special treatment and get violent when we're not pandered to. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you also one of those people who tells those with depression to kill themselves? Or think that disabled people should be treated exactly the same as everyone else? Because that's the impression I'm getting.

    I literally just stated that almost none of us want to be trans. We know it isn't the norm. These are perceptions coming entirely from you and you alone. All we ask is that we're approached with the same consideration and compassion as anyone else with some kind of disability or mental condition. This isn't groundbreaking social revolution, it's called being a decent fucking person.

    But it cares less about us than it does you. That is a statistical fact. That's why our suicide and murder rates are through the roof compared to the average population. Why we can't often go out in public or after dark through the very real fear of being ostracized, assaulted, harassed and killed FOR DOING FUCK ALL. And don't even get me started on trying to find a romantic partner. All of these things are definitely not at the forefront of the average cisgender (yes it's a real term, no Tumblr didn't invent it) person's mind. What you're saying is a shitty excuse that absolves the responsibility of caring, learning and respecting others, and it is an utterly disgusting form of apathy and ignorance; the very reason society is as shit as it is.

    AGAIN, WE DON'T. Do you really fucking think that trans people can just turn up anywhere, at some specialised event or do something in public and deliberately draw attention to the fact they're trans? I'll give you the answer: fuck no, we don't. Again, that is EVERYONE ELSE'S PERCEPTION. Once a cis person clocks a trans person, it's generally all they can focus on. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVE OUR LIVES AS CLOSE TO NORMAL AS IS POSSIBLE FOR US.

    Jesus fucking christ, dude. You need to get more information about our experiences from places other than Tumblr. So far, nothing you have put forward has validated your opinion beyond "it's just SJW bullshit" and "But you're saying mean things to me, you're just as bad as the people who dehumanise and kill you".
     
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  14. GuyStripes

    GuyStripes An automatonic shark pirate

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    Hey, as the guy who is normally the one who kicks off massive arguments, can you move it to the debate thread? Or maybe private messages?
     
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  15. Jazzi the Pegasus

    Jazzi the Pegasus Something Original

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    Tch, I thought he was more educated than this.

    In other news, it's snowing again in wisconsin. As if my sweater getting sent to Illinois wasn't bad haha.
     
  16. AkaiKitsune

    AkaiKitsune Boop

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    No it's fine, I'm done.
     
  17. Dracoa

    Dracoa Well-Known Member

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    So instead of being the better people, they sink to the us/them dynamic?

    I'm blaming a relatively small group of people of not doing anything to make their lives easier, knowing what the social climate is like. As for compassion, been there, done that, the world was still fucked. Compassion alone does nothing to stop the starving people in the world, it does nothing to stop the wars, it does nothing to stop the terrorism. Compassion alone does nothing to stop anything. Life is what everyone makes of it, more people making it hard overrides the compassionate ones and I'm tired of pushing that boulder up the mountain.
     
  18. Musky_Husky

    Musky_Husky dancer of the shadows

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    So, i totally saw zootopia for the third time last night. I need to hug judy. Like, that woman makes my heart feel again. Toon crushes, i might like them xP. I also need to see the part near the credits again with her and nick. X////x
     
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  19. MurphyAlter

    MurphyAlter The Floofiest

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    I read this in Amethyst's voice.

    This is something she would say.
     
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  20. Exeter

    Exeter Cuddly, Snuggly, Slutty Dragon

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    Anyone who thinks life is too hard to be nice to others is wasting their time interacting with other human beings.

    And honestly, trans people shouldn't have to be the better people. It's not a matter of who is being more mature. Like I'm not even sure what you're arguing for other than that in your mind trans people decided to be different and apparently caused all this trouble for themselves on purpose. I don't know your sexuality but I mean, come on, just read that statement outloud and if your immediate reaction isn't "wow that's a fucking ridiculous statement" then say it again until it dawns on you. Gay people didn't decide to be different and didn't ask for all the shit they've been through. Bi people didn't decide to make life harder and didn't ask to be brushed off as "going through a phase." Women didn't decide to make less money and didn't ask to be objectified. Depressed people didn't decide to be unhappy all the time and didn't ask for neurotypical people to try really hard to not understand bad brain chemistry.

    Yeah the world is hard and complicated and you know, lots of people are stuck in bodies and brains that don't quite fit their needs. All it takes from you is a simple "yeah, I can see it must suck to be part of group X and be so collectively shit on by society." Nobody is asking you to go to pride and carry a trans person through the parade. All you've gotta do is have a little compassion for how shitty it is to be stuck in a situation that's hard to change and be stuck in a society that makes it worse and BOOM the world is a little better for your empathy.
     
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